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Feeders????

I am sorry... I can't keep my mouth shut about this. I was perusing the home page here and noticed among the different groups was a group for feeders and people wanted to be fed till they gain as much weight as they can. I had to read this page. I was horrified when I read the part that said that the medical community is misleading people into thinking that being that obese is bad for a person physically. Now I believe in freedom of speech and I believe a person should be free to do what makes them happy, But I think that this is only true if one is not doing anything to hurt themselves or someone else. This is just my opinion but it seems to me that there might be some kind of mental illness involved in this kind of behavior. With both the individuals doing the feeding as well as the individuals doing the eating, and if these people have some kind of mental issues then what they are doing is not right. You are fooling yourselves if you actually believe that a morbidly obese person can be healthy. Before anyone gets on my case I AM considered extremely maybe even morbidly obese. Due to the fact that I am 5' 6" and close to 300 lbs. I know from personal experience that I feel a lot better when I lose weight. I breath better. I sleep better and I move better. I have less pain and more energy. My health in general is pretty good but I know if I stay at this weight it will take its toll when I am older. I am not saying this because some doctor told me. I am speaking from experience. I come from a family of morbidly obese people and I have watched their health become progressively worse as they age. I feel sadness for these so called feeders and their feedees. I know I know I just opened up a can of worms.... remember this is just my opinion...

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Why are you getting offended Stephen? I've read the topic and I don't see anyone judging sexual preferences of any kind, but the health risk!!! You know, health.. And you keep talking about the love and mutual joy of a feeder and a feedee..
Homo sapiens was earlier in the evolution homo erectus, so how can you say it's ok for a feedee not to be able to stand up straight as it should be...? That's the way we humans are created, to stand on our two feet.. If a 700 lbs person could walk AND with no ache for that matter, then I guess it would be completely ok, no matter how that person looks or what she likes.. Just don't tell me that ANYONE on the planet feels good being disabled and to depend on someone..

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I am not offended by honest discussion and debate. I am offended at being judged by those who do not wish to really understand. I do know and have known several women who love gettting fatter; two of them here are Dawn and Gaining Gabi; why not ask them?
As for health, how can there be scientifucally honest research in an anti-fat, prejudiced society? There isn't. I have never known a woman who became ill or whose health was comprimised from getting fatter- unless you count the usual things that all people of all sizes are subject to. I have spent a lifetime discovering just how corrupt the so-called "evidence" against the heathiness of being fat is; it is mostly agenda (profit) based. You, as a BBW, if anyone, should know that or you would run to the nearest bariatric surgeon and get your stomach mutilated for the sake of being "healthy" (just look at the mortality stats on weight loss surgery. I have no desire to keep a discussion going with those who can only judge- and of all people- so-called BBWS! And yes, there are women who actually enjoy being waited on hand and foot who would rather be super obese than not- with all its dependencies and challenges. I just hope to find the one with the right chemistry between us to spend the rest of our lives together. I guess that makes me quite unusual in today's society. And before commenting, go actually read the postings in the feeders forum.

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Why are you acting like you know me when you don't? Too bad that you don't see that I am trying to understand, I just don't 'cause there are no real pro arguments, only contra.. And why are you talking about the WLS, I'm not into that nor am I saying that anyone should lose weight. I'm talking about gaining weight on purpose to the point where a feedee couldn't gain no more weight... Ok, if there are women who enjoy this, that would actually be the only thing that makes sense to me..
You've mentioned that getting fat doesn't comprimise one's health for ten times already. I'm talking about simply standing up and walking?!? And I don't really care about the researches, I'm not buying that crap anyway..

"I have no desire to keep a discussion going with those who can only judge- and of all people- so-called BBWS!"
Oh yeah, I bet the rest of a society is ok with that, it's only us fat people who are judgmental.. yeah..

As for Dawn and Gabi, I'd like to hear their point of view, of course.

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You keep on ignoring any comment made that has any merit. There are many health issues that disappear when a person loses weight. Diabetics are able to stop taking insulin. Cholesterol is lowered. Back pain disappears, joint pain disappears. Don't tell me its "the medical community" that is brain washing us. I know all this first hand, and so do all the other BBWs on this site. We are BBWs. We all know what its like to be fat. I have read postings on here in the feeders group and on other feederism websites. I have also read about feederism on websites about psychological disorders. Feederism is not singled out on these sites because it involves obesity. It is listed under fetishism along with all the other fetishes. I educate myself before I go and comment about what I am not sure of. We are not attacking the love or attraction you feel for your feedees. We all have a problem with the obvious health risks and the problem of immobility that is involved with this fetish. These health risks are obvious to us because we live them... NOT because some doctor told us about them. You also ignore the other comments I made : Is it ok for a man that like very thin woman to encourage a woman with anorexia to starve? Is it ok for that man to encourage a woman with bulimia to binge and purge? Is it ok for us to pour a drink for an alcoholic ? Before you make a comment to the contrary it is all the same. Food addiction is real. Address these comments and I will be satisfied. I have a feeling that you have ignored all this because you know its true. All you care about is your fetish and satisfying yourself.

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I am not ignoring you nor the other comments trying to make me admit how "bad" my "fetish" is. Frankly, You are wrong in attacking me for a deep-rooted preference that I have tried everything short of suicide (including years of therapy) to rid myself of. I just recently found out that there ARE women who are the other side of my coin, so to speak. So it, regaqrdless of your hate-filled attempts and those of others here to coerce debate from me, is NOT a matter of it being a one-way strret where I am forcing some "perverted" sexual fetish upon a poor, low-self esteemed woman. It's just not the case.

The illogical and emotional is non-explainable by logical debate, and certainly non-defendable. There is nothing else that I can say; all of your intolerantly ugly and judgemental comments say it all.

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You are still being evasive.... I will all take your reluctance to address my comments to mean that you have no way of dismissing them because they are right. I never once called you perverted. I was never once hateful. Maybe you take my comments as ugly and hateful because deep down you feel that your behavior is ugly and not right... Don't project your deep down feelings onto me... I was never disrespectful to you.

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I am not being evasive. You are asking for a logical explanation of the illogical and an intellectual accounting for something that I cannot explain by intellect. You analysis makes me sibk- it is your evaliuationof me and my feelings that makes me upset- you cannot relate to something you see as harmful and disgusting, so you attempt to extract a "confession" from me to support your opinion. That sounds like an inquisition to me. I am so very weary of being attacked by you and your supporters here. There is nothing I can say that could possibly support nor justify my feelings. The only thing positive that is coming out of this is a warning to both men and women of my preference how truly hateful and judgemental those who cannot relate to our lifestyle can be. Enough, Tammy. Let's cease this discussion as it is getting no where.

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Ok. I think every person on this page, needs to take a deep breath! Can everyone breathe in and breathe out, breathe in and breathe out!

I know that many do not understand this way of life. There will always be boundaries and limits set. We are all different and we all think differently. I know that many of us do not understand the feeder/feedee relationship but where is it our place to be the judge of that?

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I agree with you!!!!!!

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i have been approached by feeders and my answer is always NO...i find it terrible that some ppl get sexual satisfaction by harming anothers health..i am diabetic and i can imagine what would happen if i chose this lifestyle...recently, a feeder told me to dump my bf and become his feedee...i was slightly amused and bewildered by it all...its a sad sad fetish if you ask me...

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I have also been approached by these feeders. I also agree that it is terrible. I want someone to want me for ME for who I am not some fetish that has someone pushing food on me to gain wait for HIS satisfaction. NO ONE is going to make me feel less worthy cus i don't measure up to HIS standards.
I refuse to be ANYONE'S fetish.

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I keep getting the sense that is always the mans choice for the other person to gain. But there is many out there that are women who enjoy gaining and getting larger and growing. It is a personal choice for many and I know that you may not understand it, its not because the people who are interested in this way of life, are mentally sick or have low self esteem issues, just some have chose to be what they want and in a relationship or by themselves and there are females who have the desire to grow bigger. Its Not always HIS standards or HIS desires. Many times it is an equal choice between partners. There is even some single women who enjoy gaining and growing and do it on there own because they want to. No one is pushing them do it. I know that you don't understand why a person would want to do this, but I am not quiet sure if you would really want to know.

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